Corpse Raider
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:09:00 -
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I've seen a lot of qq threads about murder taxis (LLAVs) but no real suggestions on how to reasonably balance them. People ask for the nerf bat to be swung yet again, buffs to av that would make tanks too easy to kill, etc.
The solution proposed in this thread title hit me as being so obvious as to be overlooked. LAVs are open top vehicles, the crew can be sniped, shotgunned and I read of a nova knife driver kill somewhere on the forum, but apparently the occupants are immune to grenade damage.
The reason people use these vehicles as supercharged tanks is because even though they are open topped, they seem to confer immunity from the large explosions created by AV grenades. There is virtually no risk to the driver. Tank weakness is reduced maneuverability and speed. Infantry weakness is being squishy. LAV weakness is high susceptibility to AV grenades and swarms. LLAV has the hp of a tank and the maneuverability of an LAV and no real weakness.
Realism and balance could be added to this abused mechanic by applying a part of AV damage to the occupants. Obviously the vehicle would shield the occupants from much of the damage and with tanks they would offer full shielding from AV splash damage, but having an open top vehicle shielding the occupants fully seems ridiculous.
The precise implementation of this would need some number crunching, but it seems to me that this kind of approach would be the most fair and could lead to the best balance if implemented well. |
Corpse Raider
P.O.N.A.G.S.
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Posted - 2013.06.11 11:11:00 -
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I've destroyed dozens of militia LAVs over the past couple of weeks. These are not a problem. The AV actually works on them.
The issue is logistic LAVs. Of all the many times I've throwm av grenades at LAVs not once has the pilot been injured by them. Pokey Dravon, are you sure it wasn't a locus grenade? Godin Thekiller are you sure that AV grenades damage the driver? The law of averages states that I should have hit the driver at some point. I try to hit the cockpit and have become fairly decent at getting AV grenades on target.
I run with AV grenades on every suit, the problem has become so bad, and not once has an AV grenade damaged the occupants of LAVs of any kind. When militia LAVs get destroyed and the driver bails just before then the driver gets hit by splash damage from the vehicle destruction, but I'm pretty sure that AV 'nades don't damage vehicle crew.
Esper Shadows. Read my first post again. I acknowledge the possibility of killing the vehicle drivers with regular weapons. That is not what this thread is about. I am talking about applying damage from AV grenades to the crew of open cockpit vehicles.
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